Family Research Council's Vice President of Church Ministires



-- Says about LGBT people: "Who do you think is ultimately behind the efforts to advance the radical homosexual agenda, indoctrinate our children, and ruin our military, now? Who's behind the efforts to get God out of government, Christ out of culture, and faith out of public life? Who's behind it? Well, I think we've got a pretty clear answer. [laughter] The Devil is behind it! So, the real enemy…it's not the poor, deluded souls who are advancing these ungodly agendas—they're simply pawns in the hands of their malevolent master. They need to be set free by the grace of God in the person of Jesus Christ—amen?…As you think about this battle in which we're engaged, you need to think about who the real enemy is that we're fighting against here, and that is, the fact is, we're up against the organized, mobilized, demonized forces of hell itself. And really, to the victor goes the prize of the America our children will inherit, so this is a fight we dare not lose. Amen?"  Clip follows:

-- Claims LGBT people are "confused."  Clip follows:

-- Says of LGBT rights fight: "Again, the evil day is not coming to America—the evil day is here….We are engaged in a great spiritual war with the forces of evil directed by the prince of darkness himself."  Clip follows:

-- Another clip of this senior FRC spokesman saying theirs is a "spirtual war against Satan" before again claiming gays/LGBT rights are controlled by the devil. Clip follows:

-- In lengthy sermon, warned congregants that they might need to prepare for armed revolution; says it's godly because "God is not a pacifist." Clip follows:

-- When asked, in a speech where he again goes after the "radical homosexual agenda," if he's calling for armed conflict, he answers: "No I'm not—not yet."